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PROUD PARENTS: IN THE NEWS
Well here’s one for the books, Mohammad Shafia, pictured left, his son Hamed (back right) and his wife Tooba Mohammad Yahya (front right) are seen here walking to court to be charged with first degree murder in the deaths of their daughters Zainab (age 19), Sahar (age 17), and Geeti (age 13), as well as that of their Aunt Rona Amir Mohammad (age 50). These idiots were so dumb they actually Google searched the phrase “where to commit a murder”. Make the jump for the full news story..
Photo credit: Lars Hagberg, Montreal Gazette
Courtesy of PostMedia News
Written by Rob Tripp
KINGSTON, Ont. — In the days after Mohammad Shafia’s three daughters died, he spoke privately to family about how they had dishonoured him by consorting with boys, jurors at his murder trial were told Thursday.
“God’s curse on them . . . may the devil s*** on their graves,” Shafia said, in a conversation with his second wife, Tooba, and son, Hamed, that was secretly recorded by police. “Is that what a daughter should be? Would (a daughter) be such a whore?”
Prosecutor Laurie Lacelle revealed the excerpt from a wiretap during an hour and a half opening address to the six-man, six-woman jury. The cavernous room of Kingston’s 153-year-old limestone courthouse was full with dozens of journalists and roughly 100 spectators, as Canada’s first ever mass honour killing case began to unspool in public for the first time.
Shafia, 58, Tooba, 41, and Hamed, 20, are accused of killing Zainab, 19, Sahar, 17, Geeti, 13, and Rona Amir Mohammad, 52, who was Shafia’s first wife. The four members of the Afghan family were found dead in a car discovered submerged in a shallow canal in Kingston on June 30, 2009.
Jurors were told that they will hear evidence about the ancient cultural practice of honour killing, in which the chastity and obedience of female family members is paramount. In some cases, families believe the only way to cleanse shame and restore honour is to kill offending women.
Lacelle told the jurors that police planted a listening device in a Shafia vehicle on July 18 and recorded several conversations in which Shafia complained to his wife and son that his daughters had turned bad. They wore revealing clothes and makeup. Zainab ran way from home in May of 2009 and demanded permission to marry her Pakistani boyfriend. The two other daughters wanted to leave home to get way from an oppressive and abusive environment.
“It was all treason, they committed treason from beginning to the end,” Lacelle said, quoting Shafia from another wiretap. “They betrayed humankind; they betrayed Islam; they betrayed our religion and creed; they betrayed our tradition; they betrayed everything.”
“He said, even if they hoist me up onto the gallows, nothing is more dear to me than my honour,” Lacelle said, recounting Shafia’s words. “Let’s leave our destiny to god and may god never make me, you or your mother honourless.”
Lacelle revealed that police seized a laptop computer from the family’s home in Montreal. It was registered to Shafia but used by his son Hamed. Forensic experts found evidence of a Google search 10 days before the deaths.
“The words entered were: ‘Where to commit a murder,’ ” Lacelle said. A few weeks earlier there had been a search on the computer for, “Can a prisoner have control over their real estate,” the prosecutor said.
Lacelle said that autopsies on the victims showed that they drowned, though experts could not determine when they drowned. Toxicology tests did not find any evidence of any incapacitating substances in the bodies of the victims. Three of the victims had fresh bruises on the crowns of their heads. Lacelle offered no explanation for the injuries.
Only one witness appeared Thursday, Kingston police Const. Julia Moore, an identification officer who collected evidence and took photos at the scene. Moore explained that the car in which the victims were found, a Nissan Sentra, was in first gear, with the driver’s side window down, the headlights switched off. The two front seats were reclined.
Lacelle said the jurors will hear evidence that Tooba and Hamed have both acknowledged in statements that they were at the locks when the Sentra went into the water. In public statements the family made in the days after the deaths, they said that their daughter, Zainab, had taken the car without permission on that night and they did not know how the four ended up dead in the canal.
The family had stopped in Kingston early on the morning of June 30 on the way home to Montreal from a family trip to Niagara Falls. They took two rooms at a motel near the locks.
Defence lawyers did not make any opening statements to the jury and they have not yet cross-examined Moore. She will be back on the stand Friday.
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clear your cache, dudebro
but on a positive note those medieval minded followers of the islamic religion are soon to die!!!!!!!
don’t you see why faith is actually a terrible terrible thing?
I’m not going to say that they shouldn’t practice their religion, however, certain things such as honor killings are horrible. This is not the middle east where Islam is the dominate religion. You can’t do that stuff here and think you’ll be exonerated from committing a murder.
They should be made to eat pork, have sex with a Jew while in a Catholic Church.
I’m with you on the pork, but why punish a Jewish person and a Catholic church? (mildly kidding)
I’m all for respecting other’s religious views, but personally I’ve about had it with this aspect of the “Religion of Peace”.
How can you dress up evil and make it look like “honor”? You can’t.
this happened not far from my home,the bastards murdered the girls and his other wife because they felt they were too westernized,the victems were living like normal kids enjoying life and the first wife was fine with it…..this honor killing shit has got to stop…R.I.P
If they don’t like our culture, why do they want to live here???
Tazmom – why punish the pig either?!
If they do not want their children “westernized” then why do people immigrate to canada and the USA. Stay in your own country if you want to live this way.
We don’t have the death penalty in Canada and I don’t support the death penalty, but people like this make me question that belief.
what kind of an animal murders their own daughter?????
No different than the kind of America that lardass Jerry Falwell, his followers and his “moral majority” tried to create in the early 80′s. Death penalties to everyone who isn’t like them. Religion = nuttery.
@slugbreff…Very good point. The pig does deserve better than that. LOL
And to those who ask why they don’t go home if they don’t like western culture…its because they came here explicitly to demand us to change it to their liking. (Not all muslims…some are decent people who came here FOR the western culture)
They are working hard to that goal too. Everyday we hear some stupid dufus judge allowing Sharia law to be taken into consideration in an American court room. INSANE. One just did so in Florida this week.
All the decent Muslims in the west have to put up with racism and xenophobia cause of fuckstains like this. If you find western culture ass-backwards, that’s fine, understandable even. Why you’d move here is questionable, but when you do, you relinquish the right to human rights violations… fucking ridiculous.
Here or in their native homes, honour killing is a fancy name for murder. Stop putting lipstick on a pig. It’s still wrong, regardless of where on the planet it happens, and we know it happens regularly in some areas.
No human being deserves to be punished for choosing to fit into the society they’ve been brought to. I bet the girls had no choice where they live, and were expected to conform to local social norms. It’s how any child grows, learns, and gains acceptance from their friends.
This isn’t the first time this has happened in North America, and sadly will continue to happen. You can’t change doctrine that’s been taught over generations.
There isno easy answer. I just pray all 3 pay fully. Once in prison, they will not last long.
The death penalty is outlawed in Canada (which is a shame). But shotguns are not.
for the person that left the message that faith is wrong. Please don’t faith is a wonderfull comunication between Jehova, allah and yayawa all encompass the same divine heavenly father the only difference is in prophets and messiah for the christians they believe jesus, the jews believe he is yet to come and of course islam does not believe in a messiah but jesus was a wise prophet. Some people though could rightfully be called fanatics and take things out of context or believe what their guru, rabbi, priest or imam say is rule and law. All true forms of higher thought and spirtuality are steeped in love, respect and obediance to God. I really feel for you though because you are devoid of faith and a relationship with god or a higher power if you please so I am betting you run on full selfishness though you wouldnt agree because your ego and intellect tell you that you are always right .
I can’t help but laugh at all this outrage over a couple of Muslims who killed their daughters… GO FIGURE!!!! Where the hell were all of you when talk of Sharia Law being considered for decisions in AMERICAN Courts was being discussed!!!! This is the kind of shit that happens in a Country where everyone is forced by POLITICAL CORRECTNESS to accept other cultures and play nice so no one gets offended!!! Well Done America,Well Done!!!
Why do they move here if they want to remain brainwashed by that sick ass religion? They are welcome here but do they not realize it is a free country? The kids will change from the overbearing demands of that crazy religion when they figure out that they can actually think for themselves over here.
I am just as sickened by the fact that so many of you are generalizing all Muslim people based on the actions of a few… I am saddened by the amount of ignorance, and bigotry that I am seeing. There extreme ‘purists’ like this in many other religions, as well as people who kill for their beliefs.
@Naomi… Sorry but neither the group or myself are “generalizing all muslim people.” I will however be more than happy to make generalizations about the whacked out fucks who practice and abide by Sharia Law… Not sure if you’ve done your homework on these laws, but please do! Not all Muslim people are violent, but then again, not all Muslims practice Sharia Law… Any time you have a person or group that is so devout to their religions dogma, bad things happen… It just so happens that this religion has a sect of people who believe that these laws have been given to them from “god.”
Now before anyone jumps down my throat about Christianity and the crusades… Let me tell you, it’s pretty clear in the 10 basic laws that were faxed down to Moses via the Stone tablets; “though shall not Murder…” Thus, for all the “Muslims” who believe that Jesus was a “wise profit” let me tell you, I believe you might wanna go back and see what the “wise profit” had to say about killing… Specifically killing your own family.
Examples like this is what is wrong with living in the ‘Ancient’ ways of your religion. Islam in general is a peaceful and tolerant religion. It looks down on death, murder, killings of innocents, etc.
Christians spent YEARS in medieval times killing ‘witches’ and other crazy things ‘In the name of God’. But they did that back in the DARK AGES. We are in a SOPHISTICATED MODERN SOCIETY. Islam hasn’t evolved passed this. Most of what they do, not all societies do, are based on ANCIENT teachings of Islam. The Christian extremists who were killing in the name of God has ceased to exist. But in parts of the world in Islam it still exists.
What we are fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq is a perfect example. I’m sorry but your families ‘honor’ isn’t more important than human lives. If your 3 daughters don’t want to walk around the rest of their lives wearing a hood and covering their face while they are living in CANADA, they shouldn’t have to. That is the beauty of the western world. We NO LONGER oppress women. Women are holding jobs of authority. Try putting a Muslim man who believes in the ‘Old Ways’ in a Western Court room with a Woman as the judge deciding his fate. He will denounce her for being a woman as a judge. He will believe that it isn’t ‘legal for a woman to judge a man.’
The ones stuck in such old ways still denounce women as LESS THAN human basically. They aren’t man’s equals. They are nothing other than women, basically servants and slaves in their marriage.
Now don’t get me wrong, I know that not all people of Islam are like this.
I just don’t see why Muslims aren’t more evolved. Some are but there are SO MANY who believe and follow the EXACT same stuff they did 2k years ago as they do now in modern times. Why they haven’t evolved out of the more petty beliefs. Like having their women always have their head and face covered. Christians out grew the ‘Witch’ thing. Pentecostals are the only ones who believe in their clothing will send them to hell. But in Islam, how a women isn’t allowed to even look at another man in the face without getting beat and being considered a whore. WHERE BEATING YOUR WIFE IS ‘OKAY’ when she is ‘out of line’, disobedient, or looks at another man the wrong way.
Most of the time they can’t say what they are thinking. Think the woman of the house is allowed to speak within a group of men? Think she can just walk in and join a debate while the ‘men talk’?
Islam needs to evolve in a hurry. They preach in their religion that it is OKAY TO KILL ‘Enemies of Islam’. Even tho they DENOUNCE killing of innocents, 9-11 was justified because the 3k children, women, and men were ‘Enemies of Islam’.
But like I said, I understand not all are stuck in the old ways. I dated a girl that was Muslim back after high school for about a year. We used to sit and talk about our religions all the time. We’d spend hours talking about 9-11, understanding Jihad, and trying to understand how and why Extremists justify the things that they do.
It’s strange cause the Quran even more than the Holy Bible, talks about tolerance for people of other creeds and religion. It talks about how killing innocents is one of the worst things you can do. It teaches acceptance of others. But at the same time it tells of how God will forgive any man who takes a life in the name of Islam while defending Islam against an Enemy of Islam.
No where in the Bible does it JUSTIFY any killing at all. We are told to turn the other cheek, not to kill. A Christian, even following Ancient beliefs, wouldn’t have EVER killed their daughters to ‘Restore the families Honor’…
Actually, there are many passages in the Bible that advocates killing on grand scales. It even says that in a town where ONE person is a believer in a false god, then everyone in the town should be killed. It’s funny how Christians think that the Bible is a “good” book, when they are really picking and choosing choice things from the Bible to practice, even though essentially being a Christian comes with the believe that the Bible is God’s word.
Any practice of set doctrines without an outside, secular analysis is unadvised. There should be little room in Western education for an educated person to actually believe in religious writings as truth. I hardly have many problems with religion, but when it is used to dictate how everyone can live their lives when it advocates HORRIBLE thinking and actions, I can’t stand behind it. I think religion should stay in your household, have nothing to do with our law system and shouldn’t be taught in schools unless privately funded. Equal, secular treatment for all.
I am Muslim and this is NOT Islam!!! These people are sick! They disobeyed the Quran in many ways by committing such atrocities!! How could they kill their own precious children… they will burn in hell for what they have done!
@liberal hater This was in Canada… dumbass.
ok this is my OPINION and im not trying to be racist but this is not afgan iraq whatever this is AMERICA! if you wanna practice the illegal parts of your religous culture dont do it in america go back to your homeland where its not illegal thank you! sorry my opinion
@susan KINGSTON, Ont is NOT in America. It is in Canada.
I am sick of all these people saying that Islam and Muslims are “fine….I have friends that are Muslim,etc.” That is BULLSHIT. It says right in their own Koran that they are NOT allowed to be friends with anyone who is not Muslim. I wish America would wake up. And for the comments of “If they don’t like our culture, why do they come here”? They come here and live next door to us acting as “normal” as possible until they get the word from back home to kill a bunch of us or blow something up. Is everyone from the Middle East here to cause harm? No, not by a long shot. Is everyone here that is Islamic or Muslim here to cause harm? You betcha.
Faith is not a bad thing… Fath is a good thing and being spiritual no matter what your religon is also good, but Blind obediance to moronic rules that were set down about 200 years ago, that is not good. I know that God no matter whitch faith says that killing is not ok.
sorry that should have said 2000 years ago