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A mother in Texas shot her two children, then turned the gun on herself after a seven hour standoff at a Health and Human Services office in Laredo.
Shooting victim Ramie Grimmer’s Facebook page in which the 12 year-old daughter of Rachelle Grimmer writes “may die 2day”. (See photo.)
The children, 10 year-old Timothy and 12 year-old Ramie are in critical condition at University Hospital in San Antonio.
Rachelle Grimmer, 38, confronted employees about a food stamp application that she submitted in July. At one point she pulled out a firearm and demanded to speak to the manager. The manager talked Grimmer into letting the other employees go free in exchange for him. ”He told the woman he would remain with her,” a Laredo police officer said. “He acted quite courageously.”
Police negotiators were brought in to talk to the woman on the phone, but Grimmer repeatedly hung up, according to MSNBC. at around 7 P.M. the manager was allowed to go free while Grimmer and her two children remained inside the government building. Police continued to talk to the woman, but just before midnight Grimmer hung up on negotiators one last time. Three shots were heard from outside and as SWAT stormed the building they found the two injured children and the body of Grimmer.
According to police, ”The overall understanding is that this was more than just a one-issue crisis.” The feeling they got was that Grimmer felt she was owed something and the standoff “wasn’t like a knee-jerk reaction.”
Stephanie Goodman, a spokeswoman for the family services office in Laredo told reporters, “She originally applied for the stamps on July 7. We scheduled an interview by phone with her, but couldn’t reach her after repeated attempts.”
“We were still waiting, and if we had that, I don’t know if she would still qualify or not,” Goodman said.
Activity on Ramie Grimmer’s Facebook page was being updated as the tragic events were unfolding. At 6:50 P.M. on Monday the 12 year-old updated her work status to say “may die 2day”. Later at 10:28 P.M. Ramie posted on her wall “tear gas seriasly”, apparently in response to tear gas being released into the Health and Human Services building. A mutual friend of all three Grimmers on Facebook replied to that post saying, “i’m here for you guys. no reason to be afraid”.
The family had reportedly moved to Texas from Ohio, and Grimmer complained to negotiators about various agencies of government. According to Facebook, the family was originally from Lost Creek, Montana, near Beaverhead National Forest and the city of Anaconda, where the 38 year-old Grimmer went to high school.
Story courtesy of The Imperfect Parent.
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What the hell is the girl posting to her Facebook when her mom has a gun to some dude’s head???
Wow at the whole thing…
That is just what kids do these days, post shit to facebook. This just happens to be the only time it was not meaningless drivle.
Keep this one thing in mind Curtieson, crazy people do make sane people crazy. I hope they will be okay.
Note to Self and Lesson Learned, Stay the fuck out of Texas!
Probably the only way the kid could contact the outside world. If I was in a hostage situation and my only form of communication that might get me help is FB, I’d be posting too.
Omg! The best thing from this is Mom’s crazy @## is dead”!! Smh
nancy is listed as her grandmother……. My prayers go out to the family…..
From that post about the tear gas. Sounds like the child thought what her mother doing was a good idea.
I agree with SoCali….it does seem like the kid seemed to be annoyed at the teargas, as if she thought it was an overreaction. In any event, it’s a sad state of affairs.
The article failed to mention that at 9:34pm (during the 7-hour stand-off) Ramie posted on her Facebook “im bored”, ‘liked’ Evanescence and answered a poll. She wasn’t using Facebook to contact the outside world, she was entertaining herself because she felt safe enough to do so.
Cutieson asked why the girl was posting to Facebook instead of calling for help. It apparently is not all that uncommon. There was a situation in the UK where two girls were trapped in a drainage ditch, which was about 6 feet deep and had a fair amount of water in it. They BOTH updated their Facebook status, but neither had the wits to contact the police.
As NiftyDucky said, crazy people make others crazy, too. This poor child probably lived in a world where the fact that her mother was going to kill her, etc. was just “the way things were”.
Southern whores are so stupid, they can’t even kill their own kids and get it right. Especially the ones who attempts it multiple times and STILL fails. I call these cunts “FLOP Casey Anthony’s”.
ok the reason she didn’t contact for help may have been because the cops were already there. She’s a young kid who was with her mother, in her eyes all her mother was doing was scaring the government into giving them help, this kid must have thought her whole life that they were starving because of the government (something i assume the mother was telling her often). Don’t diss on this kid for something that ANY person in her mind set would do, besides did anything think she may have been doing it to keep her mind off the situation?
Am I the only one wondering what a child is doing with a phone capable of online activity when the family is in need of foodstamps to get by? Sounds like parents had screwy priorities all around. Although the statuses don’t mention being updated by mobile so perhaps she was using a government office computer. In the end, the children still have a shot at recovery and hopefully will be put into a new home with people capable of properly raising them (meaning less time wasted on a social networking site that they have no business having an account with and more time and emphasis on schoolwork.) I wish them the best and that they will recover from the trauma of seeing their unfit mother commit suicide after attempting to murder them.
@ NIFTY DUCKY… I hope you DO stay out of Texas, PLEASE!!
If they are hurting for money so bad how did mom buy a gun also why does a 12 year old have a smart phone?
The level of stupidity is over the top in these comments.
‘Seriously’ as in “No, they are SERIOUSLY using tear gas”, not troll-style ‘Seriously?’ sarcasm. If you were stuck in a ditch and you posted on facebook, “help, I’m stuck in a ditch”, most people would think you’re joking… so hence, “Seriously”.
2nd, why does the girl need to call the police when the police were already there?? You people are dumb… the manager of the office was let free by the mom at 7PM, the girl started updating and posting at 6:50PM which means the standoff w/ police occurred earlier to when she was posting on facebook.
the only thing I wonder is why the kids couldn’t make a run for it. Either the mom held them hostage or they were just scared out of their minds.
@ Scott. What do Southern whores have to do with a homicidal/suicidal mom raised in Montana and living in Ohio until recently moving to Texas?
Learn to read f*** wad.
R.I.P. Ramie…
@Curtieson: Seriously?!? You think she was @ Social Services and posting this information on her wall?!? Wow, what a truly stupid comment.
As of December 8, 2011 both of the children have passed away. Such a tragic end for two kids.
Mom was obviously nuts and had been that way for a long time. So long that her shocking behavior was normal to the kids. They weren’t terrified because this was their day to day reality. They probably even agreed with what she was doing. So sad because this may have been prevented if someone had noticed how disturbed this women really was, People don’t just wake up and go crazy. Poor babies i can only imagine what they lived every day.